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Das hier haben bestimmt schon einige gesehen :
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Wer Gewalt nicht erträgt, der sollte lieber nicht hinsehen, denn in diesem Video wird ein Mann geköpft... oder eben nicht ? Seit einiger Zeit geistert ein Text im Internet herum, und ist natürlich - wie alle diese Verschwörungstheorien - mit Vorsicht zu geniessen. Aber man sollte sich das doch mal zu Gemüte führen :

[Der Text stammt von http://topplerummy.org/berg/ ]

48 Problems with the Video and Official Story

Background on Nick Berg

1] Berg had connections to al Qaeda terrorists strong enough to be questioned by the FBI. His email was used by accused terrorist Zacharias Moussaoui. He reportedly gave his email to an affiliate of Moussaoui's while on a bus ride in Oklahoma. During this period he was arrested several times for vagrancy on his college campus where he was apparently homeless.

2] The United States and the Iraqi police detained Berg for 13 days, not releasing him until his father filed suit. He was detained as a suspected Israeli spy. The US now denies it had anything to do with the detention despite correspondence to the contrary. The Iraqi police also deny any involvement in his detention. They are playing hot potato with it.

3] When Berg was detained he, a Jew, had a copy of the Koran and an anti-semetic book entitled 'The Jewish Problem'. That is just strange. Some have speculated the Koran may have been to help him travel in an Islamic nation, but if Berg took such preparations why didn't he have the Israeli stamp in his passport put in a temporary add in page; This would be normal for someone traveling to both Israel and a Muslim nation since both have problems with the visa stamps of the other.

4] Nick Berg's dad and Berg's tower company appear on a Free Republic 'enemies' list. The list isn't too long. I'm not on it under any alias I've used.

5] Nick Berg's tower company is not registered in his home state of Pennsylvania. While not a legal requirement, state officials report it would be nearly impossible to do business without registering.

6] One of the towers Berg worked on, the biggest and most damaged one, was next to the prison.

7] No one can account for Berg's whereabouts from between April 10th (when his father believes he was killed) and the day his body was found. He looks very clean and well fed to have been held prisoner by savages for over a month.

8] The US has not stated how his body was identified. It didn't have a head. It should have taken some time to ID. Reports have stated that 'his headless body was found ..." His body was identified and his parents notified before the video aired.

9] Berg's body, though he was a civilian, was flown by the military to Dover Air Force Base. According to Department of State Publication 10391, Bureau of Consular Affairs, Revised September 1996, "The U.S. Government cannot pay to have your body buried overseas or returned to the United States." This is a publication intended for Americans living / working abroad as Berg was. His parents requested to be there when it arrived but were denied.

Berg was dead when beheaded, execution faked

10] No blood spurts from his neck as he is supposed to be dying. The amount of blood on the floor is much smaller than it should have been. He should have died from bleeding out and this would have resulted in a couple of liters of blood spurting from his neck. According to medical experts he should have died from bleeding out. Even if his spine was severed quickly he should have continued to bleed until his heart ran out of blood; this was the reason for having straw under the guillotines during the French revolution. These heads would also remain animated for some time.

11] No blood gets on the hand of 'Zarqawi' even though it was in front of Berg's neck when he should have been bleeding out. Medical experts have commented that blood should have spurted several feet and gotten all over the nearby men.

12] Berg doesn't struggle or even flinch when his head is sawed off with a western style military knife. Any movements can be explained by the way his captors are moving him. Observe that they tension in the direction of the motion, not the opposite direction as if they were holding him still.

13] The body makes no death throws. None. Nada. Most animals, when they die, convulse.

14] Almost nothing dripped from the recently severed head. The face seems to be stiff and there seems to be makeup on it. Rigamortis appears to have set in.

15] Berg continues to 'scream' after his windpipe has been cut through.

The Nick Berg Video has many problems

16] The whole time line is completely confused. There are many inconsistencies in the time line. The most obvious is that he was 'found Monday over the weekend'.

17] Between Berg being knocked to the floor and then hacked up, the video cuts for no reason. Any amount of time could have elapsed here.

18] Some people believe this is a two camera shoot. I don't think so since the time code font and location, as well as the color balance, seem the same. If they are two different cameras I think they are the same model, which would be odd. Two cameras would mean a higher level of editing sophistication and that makes me really wonder why the editor would choose not to synch up the sound, etc.

19] The website to which the video was released was down within 90 minutes. All major news organizations supposedly learned of this video and obtained copies within that time. Al Jazeera was unable to access the website 90 minutes after the release.

20] The speaker fumbles the transcript several times and goes back to the same page several times. It appeared he was having trouble reading his own statement. He found five pages of a two sides two page statement to read. There is no matching pause for turning the pages.

21] The speaker is reading from left to right. Arabic (except numbers) is read from right to left.

22] The time codes jump around in way not explainable solely by a two camera set up.

23] Some people have suggested that the audio is just out of time synch. If this is the case then it is out of time synch by substainly different amount at different locations, including an audio cut out of 5 seconds. An analysis of the video can be found at liberty forums.

24] During the hacking up the video camera zooms in indistinctly just when you would expect the filmer to be trying for the most horrid details. If this was a two camera filming, why wasn't the other footage used?

25] The guy hacking off the head has a black hood, there is a very subtle cut at the end (after Thy Will Be Done) and another guy switches places, the tall one with the white mask and black hands. The time code jumps over a minute.
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The men in the video weren't Arab 'al-Qaeda Terrorists'

26] 'Zarqawi' is wearing a large gold ring. Islam reportedly forbids men to wear gold jewelry. Even if he didn't care he'd have to know the Arab world would consider him a fraud.

27] The rifle is a Galil variant. This is an Israeli rifle and is considered to be unreliable. Arab militants wouldn't use them. The guns are all either Galils or Mac's.

28] Zarqawi is thought to be dead and is known to have an artificial leg. Clearly the man hacking off the head didn't. The CIA has previously reported both of these facts and has made no acknowledgement of, or explanation for, changing their minds.

29] Zarqawi is known to have a tattoo on the back of his left hand of three green dots. The man hacking off the head didn't have a tattoo on his hand.

30] All the men had nice WHITE hands. Except in the last 20-30 seconds when the face appears to have been digitally lightened, the hands are as white or whiter than Berg's skin. Arab terrorists don't have white hands. UPDATE, the last man has black hands, this is the very tall one who swaps in at the end to hold up the head.

31] All of the men had identical, nice, clean clothing. It looked new. This is unlikely for rogue combatants in a war zone. It is likely if someone needed some 'terrorist' clothing for a video.

32] Western sports style white shoes are very uncommon in Arab nations. I didn't notice this but it was pointed out by a friend who lived in the Mid east. I looked at the current National Geographic on Iraq and could not find one pair of tennis shoes.

33] If Zarqawi was in the video, why didn't he show his face? It is known to the US already. It would have established the video's authenticity. It would have inspired fear. So why's it covered?

34] The real Zarqawi speaks with a Jordanian accent. According to a CNN mid-eastern expert who is a fluent translator, this 'Zarwaqi' did not speak with a Jordanian accent. She dismissed the possibility of it being him out of hand. The CIA seems to be ignoring this and is virtually certain that the voices match. Why is the CIA so blatantly lying?

35] The 'militants' stood with a Western posture. When they moved in, their movements were rehearsed. Each knew where he was going when the action happened as if it were pre-planned.

36] Three of the 'Arab militants' brought their left hands to their faces during the video. The left hand is unclean in Arabic nations. It is used to wipe one's ass. The left hand is taboo. An Arab wouldn't eat with it or offer it to someone, they are unlikely to touch their eyes with it, it is unclean.

37] Some people have said the men were only adjusting their scarves. If this is so, why aren't they used to wearing such clothing?

38] An Islamic extremist would know the proper way to behead someone. It is the chosen form of execution in Saudi Arabia. It is accomplished with one clean sword stroke to the neck. The person sawing off the head obviously had a great deal of difficulty doing so, owing to the poor choice of blade and technique.

39] The registrant for the 'al Qaeda' website in Malaysia at which the video was originally released is Arab Press House in London, UK. Published at this address are ASHARQ AL-AWSAT, 'The Leading Daily Arab International Newspaper' with a circulation of around a Quarter-Million, and several Arab news magazines. This is a news service, not 'al Qaeda'.

40] Except for the individual reading the prepared statement, the only words said by the other 'terrorists' were "Allah Akbar" over and over. The speech was somewhat slurred. The accent differs significantly from the reader. An Arabic language expert has stated that the other individuals were likely not native speakers of Arabic.

41] This video came out just when it would help the Bush regime the most. Fucktards everywhere are now using it to justify widespread US war crimes. Hardly the sort of reaction Islamic militants would desire, but obviously quite predictable.

42] Berg is wearing an orange uniform identical to those used by the US for detainees.

43] The walls and baseboards are identical to the Abu Ghraib prison. The room size is institutional in size.

44] Berg is shown in a chair identical to those in the prison. These chairs are not extremely rare, but the odds of both chairs being identical is slim.

45] At 13:45:58 an individual with white skin, a military outfit, and a military hat identical to one worn by a guard at Abu Ghraib passes quickly through the lower right of the frame. This person's side re-enters several times. At 13:46:26 their left ear and hat is clearly visible in the lower right of the frame for a second. They have a pen in their left pocket where it would be impossible to reach with their right hand. Left handed individuals are taboo in Islamic cultures, you can not be a left-handed Muslim Arab, you can not write with your left hand.

46] The video never mentions the word 'Al Qaeda', it uses the word al qaed. These are two different words, one is a name and means 'The Base'. The other is not a name and translates as 'one who sits by and does nothing'. This translation is from the CNN arab language expert. She reports that any fluent speaker of Arabic would notice this difference.

47] The speaker in the tape didn't seem to know the correct arabic date and instead stated a day several days after the video was released.

48] Near the end of the video, after the chanting stops, a Western voice says "Thy Will be Done", it then repeats itself and the video instantly cuts. Hear it at http://www.breakfornews.com/berg-thywillbedone.mp3
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Und hier die genaue Analyse des Videos :
(von http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm )


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1. Notice the standard US Military Police issued prisoner overalls that Nicholas Berg is wearing in Photo 1. The orange color prisoner overalls that Nicholas Berg is wearing are identical to the ones Islamic prisoners are made to wear by the US Military Police at the Guantanamo, Cuba prison.
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2. Notice the white plastic chair that Nicholas Berg is sitting on as shown in Photo 1. It is identical to the white plastic chair that the now infamous Pfc. Lynddie England is sitting on at the Abu Ghraib prison as shown in Photo 2. This same white plastic chair can also be seen in the horrid photograph where an MP is sodomizing an Iraqi POW with his finger at the upper right corner of Photo 3. In addition, it can be seen on the lower left side of Photo 4.
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3. The color and texture of the wall as shown in the frames taken from the video as shown in Photo 1 and Photo 5 are the same as those of the Abu Ghraib prison shown in Photo 4.
Anyone who views the video will see that it is phoney. The five so call terrorists are phoney. The one on the extreme right in Photo 5 is pudgy and is wearing very clean tennis shoes. This will not be the case with an Al queda fighter. Also, Photo 5 shows that at least three of them are wearing Israeli Uzi ammunition clips. The Uzi can been seen when the operative on the extreme right adjusts the assault rifle. Look at the garb that all five are wearing. They look like Halloween costumes.
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4. The most telling evidence that the video of the decapitation of Nicholas Berg was taken inside the Abu Ghraib prison can only be detected by performing a frame by frame analysis. La Voz de Aztlan did just that and some revealing frames came up that are difficult to see if the video is played on normal speed. Towards the end of the video, at frames 9306 through 9368, a person with a US military cap temporarily pokes about a quarter of his left head into the video. His neck, left ear and part of his cap and visor can be seen. We have prepared an animated gif with just the relevant frames that clearly shows this at Animated Photo 6. Look at the right hand side as someone with a military cap, possibly with a second video camera, pokes his head into the video. Also, Photo 8 shows part of his military jacket. Compare this animated gif with the MP whose cap is circled on Photo 3.
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Ich weiss, kaum einer hat sich bis hierhin durchgelesen. An die wenigen : Was ist davon zu halten ? Was ist glaubwürdig, was an den Haaren herbeigezogen, was schlicht irrelevant ?
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Ich hab jetzt nicht ganz alles durchgelesen aber zumindest einen grossen Teil. Obwohl ich Verschwörungstheorien gegenüber sehr sehr skeptisch bin , denn diese gibt es wie Sand am Meer, sind einige Gründe die hier genannt werden doch wirklich sehr einleuchtend. Vor allem die medizinischen Gründe sind mehr als plausibel. Vielleicht waren die Terorristen aber auch einfach nur "warmherzig" und haben Berg bereits vor seiner Köpfung auf eine "sanftere" Weise getötet. Und anschliessend hat man dann mit etwas Montage nachgeholfen. Obwohl wahnsinnig plausibel ist das nicht.... aber eine Möglichkeit. Aber es gibt wirklich verdammt viele plausible Gründe in diesem Bericht.
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jep.. bei mir haben auch NICHT die amis ihr eigenes twintower in die luft gejagt..

aber die theorie hier klingt irgendwie logisch..;) *ok, das hab ich nach dem bericht über den ausserirdischen den sie vor 40 jahren seziert haben auch gedacht.. *
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Also, ich weiß nicht ! Was ist mit den anderen Videos der Personen die im Irak ermordet wurden. Ich habe einige gesehen und es war fürchterlich.
Ich hasse diese verkackten rauschebärtigen Bastarde so dermaßen. Ich wünschte die Amis würden den kompletten Nahen Osten platt bomben ! :evil:
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Dann geh' an die Front und kämpfe, Soldat!
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