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Awynkar
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Wer sind denn eure Faves in Sachen Doom und was zeichnet diese aus?
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Zimmer
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ich mag vorallem death doom, funeral doom, sludge doom und drone doom...

einige meiner helden:
My Dying Bride (einzigartig, schöne violinen, genial)
Worship (kult, extreme suizidfördernd, misanthropisch und upgefucked)
Crowbar (ob es wirklich noch als doom zählt weiss ich nicht, aber sehr sehr geil sludge band aus new orleans)
Earth (einer der schwersten & minimalistischen bands die ich kenne, gehört eigentlich zu seattle szene, ausser der gitarren weden kaum gesang und andere instrumente verwendet)
Melvins (doomig aber kein doom im eigentlichen sinne)
Black Sabbath (godfathers of metal ;) )
planter
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WarHorse!!!!!

huren geiler DOOM! tief, zerstörerisch langsam und brutal... weiss nicht wie anders beschreiben, musst du hören! album: "As Heaven Turns To Ash..."
aber vorsicht, gibt noch 'ne 70er pop/rock gruppe die auch Warhorse heisst... also nix verwechseln! :wink:
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ganz klar: Morphia (öh, das reimt sich ja :D )

http://members.chello.nl/mr.koedoot/sou ... 20Fell.mp3
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elon hat geschrieben:ganz klar: Morphia (öh, das reimt sich ja :D )
reimen? dann müstes aber Morphia(r) heissen :lol:

doom mag ich nicht besonders, wnn schon dann so was in st.vitus richtung oder das Krux album mochte ich irgendwie auch.
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Zimmer hat geschrieben:ich mag vorallem death doom, funeral doom, sludge doom und drone doom...

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen all' denen. Ich dachte immer Doom sei Doom.
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gekalut bei doom-metal.com

Proto Doom
This genre name is used only infrequently but when it is, it describes the first bands that began playing "doomy" music. In essense, the forefathers of Doom-metal. This is often very rock inspired early metal or hard rock with a definate 70ties sound to it.
Examples: Black Sabbath, Pentagram, Bedemon.

Tradional Doom
This is the first generation of Doom-metal and includes not only the first bands to play doom-metal, but new bands who continue to play in this style as well. The music is generally slow and heavy with a truely 80ties heavy metal feel to it and often overflowing with Black Sabbath influences. A certain proportion of these bands also has a true rock & roll spirit to them and with newer bands this can overflow towards the Stoner genre. This sub-genre is often called "Old School Doom" or "Classic Doom" as well.
Examples: Candlemass, St. Vitus, The Obsessed, Solitude Aeternus.

Death/Doom
Frequently regarded as second generation Doom-metal, this is still the reigning Doom-metal genre if compared and contrasted with other genres in terms of number of fans and popularity. The advent of this sub-genre gave Doom-metal a new lease of life in the late 80s/early 90s. As the name indicates this is a mixture of Death-metal and Doom-metal, often using grunts and more agressive buildups, the general style shifting away from the Rock & Roll type of feel to something far darker, morbid and (sometimes) romantic. While grunts used to be the defining vocal style, these days this genre also sees a lot of clean vocals as well, The musical basis however often remains a mixture of Death and Doom.
Examples: My Dying Bride, early Paradise Lost, diSEMBOWELMENT, Morgion.

Funeral Doom
We use the term Funeral Doom to describe the most extreme split off of Death/Doom. These bands have taken the slowness and heaviness of Doom-metal to new extremes. Generally, the bands create very distorted and depressive yet dreamy music. Grunts or some totally distored version of that are also frequently used. These are the extremists when it comes to slowness and heaviness. The term comes forth from the way the music sounds as if it would fit a funeral or funeral proccession (often moving at the pace of a funeral march).
Exmples: Skepticism, Shape of Despair, Thergothon, Funeral.

Stoner/Doom
This is a double edged sword. On the one hand we use this to describe bands who mix in more groovy 70ties influenced Stoner Rock with (Tradional) Doom-metal but we also use it to describe ultra heavy psychadelic Doom. This is due to a lot of bands who play this extreemly heavy type of psychadelic doom describe themselfs both as Stoner and Doom. Most of these bands focus a lot on heavy riffing, psycadelic sounds and are inspired by Black Sabbath.
Examples: Electric Wizard, Sleep, Abdullah, High on Fire.

Sludge Doom
Somewhat similar to the aforementioned ultra heavy versions of Stoner/Doom. We adapted the use of this term due to its use by fans and bands. A lot of different bands seem to fall under this catagory that at times have little to do anymore with the sound other Doom bands create. Generally very raw sounding music with gut-wrenchingly heavy riffs and hardcore-ish vocals. A lot of these bands have a sort of boozy or spaced out feeling to them and most of them (but not all) are strongly influenced by Black Sabbath.
Examples: Eyehategod, Grief, Sloth, Crowbar.

Atmospheric Doom
A highly contentious child within the Doom family. Perhaps the only variation of Doom-metal that does not openly focus on heaviness. Bands that fall within this sub-division are still firmly rooted within metal and Doom-metal but try to paint "soundscapes", creating wonderfully misty images one would associate with fairytales and romantic stories. Due to its doomy nature this is generally accompanied by a huge dose of mistery and failure (no happy ends). Musically more mellow and dreamy than other Doom, female vocals are often used, as well as a great deal of keyboards and other additional instuments. However unlike Gothic-metal they so not generally sound optimistic and/or bombastic.
Examples: early The 3rd and the Mortal, As Divine Grace, Chalice.

Drone Doom
It is questionable if this type of music is actually still music is the purest sense of the word. Pushing all the boundries of heaviness and slowness (far beyond anything done by Funeral Doom) creating "droning sounds" that are perhaps best described as the force of extreme gravity become music or the movement of tectonic plates deep in the earth's crust. Definatly no melody, but still Black Sabbath influenced. Often relying heavily on feedback and sometimes lacking vocals or even a rythem section.
Examples: Earth, SUNN 0))), Khanate.

Dark metal
Dark-metal can have many meanings. It is often used to describe, as the name might indicate, dark music within the metal genre. These bands are generally too much of a hybrid to classify because they mix in elements from Doom-metal, Black-metal, Death-Metal and even Darkwave. We often use the term to describe very bleak or suicidal sounding bands who mainly mix Doom-metal with Black-metal, often using insane screams and faster passages to accompany the Doomy music. Generally less heavy and more brutal or sucidal then other sub-genres.
Examples: early Katatonia, Deinonychus, Bethlehem, Cultus Sanguine.

Emotional Rock
As the name may indicate, emotional rock is not a subgenre of Doom-metal or metal for that matter. However, we use this to describe the music by a lot of older Doom-metal bands who have evolved towards a more emotional type of music without metal elements. Generally creating very sad rock songs with clean vocals.
Examples: new Anathema, new Katatonia.
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Zimmer hat geschrieben:Earth (einer der schwersten & minimalistischen bands die ich kenne, gehört eigentlich zu seattle szene, ausser der gitarren weden kaum gesang und andere instrumente verwendet)
hast du hierfür ne url?
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hab dank, die klingen ja ziemlich fett!!
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Da wären wohl REIGN und Novembers Doom zu nennen...beide aus den Staaten...jetzt wo ich überlege kommen da jede Menge Doombands her
Tirechan
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neben bands die bereits genannt wurden:

candlemass: einfach einzigartig vor allem seit ich sie live gesehen hab voll geil...die atmpsphöre...einfach herrlich
forest stream: schön gezogene melodien die echt nachdenklich und depressiv stimmen
parameicum: was soll ich sagen ausser: geil! mit frau...
godgory: sind nur zu zweit...nachdenkliche texte gepaart mit abartig geilen riffs und stimmen...
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Höre eigendlich nur noch sehr selten Doom, und wenn dann die ganz alten Klassiker oder Saturnus.
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Brunwar
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Tirechan hat geschrieben:neben bands die bereits genannt wurden:



parameicum: was soll ich sagen ausser: geil! mit frau...
würd ich mir gerne mal reinziehen gibs da was im net?

godgory: sind nur zu zweit...nachdenkliche texte gepaart mit abartig geilen riffs und stimmen...
sind die nicht ein wenig zu schnell für DOOM? Resurrection ist für mich immernoch eines der Alben die ich immer wieder höre..beeindruckend
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Khanate
total krank sind die
die dunkelste musik die ich je gehört habe
Tirechan
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@brunwar:
ja sie haben etwa wenige lieder die etwas schneller sind...aber ich denke es geht schon eher richtung doom.

im übrigen ist ressurection wirklich ein geiles album...
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wie konnete ich Skepticism vergessen??
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meine favoriten sind morphia und paramaecium
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definitiv my dying bride. sehr geil obwohl das eigendlich garnicht meine richtung ist, die ich sonst bevorzuge.
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Zimmer hat geschrieben:gekalut bei doom-metal.com

Proto Doom
This genre name is used only infrequently but when it is, it describes the first bands that began playing "doomy" music. In essense, the forefathers of Doom-metal. This is often very rock inspired early metal or hard rock with a definate 70ties sound to it.
Examples: Black Sabbath, Pentagram, Bedemon.

Tradional Doom
This is the first generation of Doom-metal and includes not only the first bands to play doom-metal, but new bands who continue to play in this style as well. The music is generally slow and heavy with a truely 80ties heavy metal feel to it and often overflowing with Black Sabbath influences. A certain proportion of these bands also has a true rock & roll spirit to them and with newer bands this can overflow towards the Stoner genre. This sub-genre is often called "Old School Doom" or "Classic Doom" as well.
Examples: Candlemass, St. Vitus, The Obsessed, Solitude Aeternus.

Death/Doom
Frequently regarded as second generation Doom-metal, this is still the reigning Doom-metal genre if compared and contrasted with other genres in terms of number of fans and popularity. The advent of this sub-genre gave Doom-metal a new lease of life in the late 80s/early 90s. As the name indicates this is a mixture of Death-metal and Doom-metal, often using grunts and more agressive buildups, the general style shifting away from the Rock & Roll type of feel to something far darker, morbid and (sometimes) romantic. While grunts used to be the defining vocal style, these days this genre also sees a lot of clean vocals as well, The musical basis however often remains a mixture of Death and Doom.
Examples: My Dying Bride, early Paradise Lost, diSEMBOWELMENT, Morgion.

Funeral Doom
We use the term Funeral Doom to describe the most extreme split off of Death/Doom. These bands have taken the slowness and heaviness of Doom-metal to new extremes. Generally, the bands create very distorted and depressive yet dreamy music. Grunts or some totally distored version of that are also frequently used. These are the extremists when it comes to slowness and heaviness. The term comes forth from the way the music sounds as if it would fit a funeral or funeral proccession (often moving at the pace of a funeral march).
Exmples: Skepticism, Shape of Despair, Thergothon, Funeral.

Stoner/Doom
This is a double edged sword. On the one hand we use this to describe bands who mix in more groovy 70ties influenced Stoner Rock with (Tradional) Doom-metal but we also use it to describe ultra heavy psychadelic Doom. This is due to a lot of bands who play this extreemly heavy type of psychadelic doom describe themselfs both as Stoner and Doom. Most of these bands focus a lot on heavy riffing, psycadelic sounds and are inspired by Black Sabbath.
Examples: Electric Wizard, Sleep, Abdullah, High on Fire.

Sludge Doom
Somewhat similar to the aforementioned ultra heavy versions of Stoner/Doom. We adapted the use of this term due to its use by fans and bands. A lot of different bands seem to fall under this catagory that at times have little to do anymore with the sound other Doom bands create. Generally very raw sounding music with gut-wrenchingly heavy riffs and hardcore-ish vocals. A lot of these bands have a sort of boozy or spaced out feeling to them and most of them (but not all) are strongly influenced by Black Sabbath.
Examples: Eyehategod, Grief, Sloth, Crowbar.

Atmospheric Doom
A highly contentious child within the Doom family. Perhaps the only variation of Doom-metal that does not openly focus on heaviness. Bands that fall within this sub-division are still firmly rooted within metal and Doom-metal but try to paint "soundscapes", creating wonderfully misty images one would associate with fairytales and romantic stories. Due to its doomy nature this is generally accompanied by a huge dose of mistery and failure (no happy ends). Musically more mellow and dreamy than other Doom, female vocals are often used, as well as a great deal of keyboards and other additional instuments. However unlike Gothic-metal they so not generally sound optimistic and/or bombastic.
Examples: early The 3rd and the Mortal, As Divine Grace, Chalice.

Drone Doom
It is questionable if this type of music is actually still music is the purest sense of the word. Pushing all the boundries of heaviness and slowness (far beyond anything done by Funeral Doom) creating "droning sounds" that are perhaps best described as the force of extreme gravity become music or the movement of tectonic plates deep in the earth's crust. Definatly no melody, but still Black Sabbath influenced. Often relying heavily on feedback and sometimes lacking vocals or even a rythem section.
Examples: Earth, SUNN 0))), Khanate.

Dark metal
Dark-metal can have many meanings. It is often used to describe, as the name might indicate, dark music within the metal genre. These bands are generally too much of a hybrid to classify because they mix in elements from Doom-metal, Black-metal, Death-Metal and even Darkwave. We often use the term to describe very bleak or suicidal sounding bands who mainly mix Doom-metal with Black-metal, often using insane screams and faster passages to accompany the Doomy music. Generally less heavy and more brutal or sucidal then other sub-genres.
Examples: early Katatonia, Deinonychus, Bethlehem, Cultus Sanguine.

Emotional Rock
As the name may indicate, emotional rock is not a subgenre of Doom-metal or metal for that matter. However, we use this to describe the music by a lot of older Doom-metal bands who have evolved towards a more emotional type of music without metal elements. Generally creating very sad rock songs with clean vocals.
Examples: new Anathema, new Katatonia.
gibts das auch für andre Metal Arten?

Black, Death, Grind, Gothic ,... ?
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